10151384_10153999686595377_1428582303_nLike the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, we are back. Unlike the Teenage Mutant Turtles, we do not have Juicy J, Michael Bay, or an unlimited budget for pizza craft services. Sometimes you eat the shell and sometimes the shell shocks you. Nonsensical blog introduction complete, it’s time I introduce the latest episode of Shots Fired, America’s favorite podcast for emotionally stunted rap junkies age 23 to 23 and three months. Our guest is Sage Francis, venerable independent rapper, Scribble Jam champion, and thoughtful podcast guest.

We spoke to him amidst his “Copper Gone” tour, discussing everything from his early years discovering rap in Providence, RI, to Scribble Jam and Slam Poetry, running an independent label (Strange Famous) and various personal and professional trials that have shaped his two-decade career. The episode is below the jump, alongside a clutch of videos you may or may not have seen. You can also purchase his new album, Copper Gone, here.